first of all, to add to jack's point, schwarzkopf was a man of unbelievable intelligence and volcanic energy and -- you know, i think soldiers loved the guy. but in retrospect, in history, what we ought to really recognize is that the combination of general schwartzko schwartzkopf, colin powell, the wonderful first president bush, all three of them were men who understood the limits of military power. and were cautious and actually didn't want to fight unless forced to and they did fight they used overwhelming force. schwartzkopf's contribution -- he was trying -- a lot of brilliant people. so-called jedi knights, bunch of army-navy marine air force young guys who came up with a strategy to not batter directly away at the enemy force. remember that iraqi army. fourth largest army in the world. it had thousands and thousands of tanks and artillery pieces. and if you look at our military history, frequently what we have had, you know, world war ii, the italian theater, korea, korean peninsula, just battering away directly at an enemy. schwarzkopf, when he unveiled that plan, i was a division c